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Think Change episode 8: what next? Rwanda asylum plan in a changing political landscape

Written by Sara Pantuliano, Sorcha O'Callaghan, Becca Hird, Isabel Alonso García


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The Rwanda asylum plan refers the UK’s government’s controversial proposed policy to deport people identified as illegal immigrants, or seeking asylum, to Rwanda for resettlement.

A judicial review of the policy is now set to take place in September, but the UK government continues to defend it and has not ruled out deportation flights over the summer.

The case itself has been hugely divisive in the UK, Rwanda, and internationally. What started as a legal argument has caused a ripple effect into areas of religious morality and political ideology, while raising practical questions about whether this plan is lawful and workable, and why Rwanda is the destination of choice.

And with a Conservative Party leadership contest now under way following the resignation of Prime Minister Boris Johnson, the plan is featuring highly on the list of issues for leadership candidates.

So what next? We dive into these issues with experts from the legal profession, humanitarian policy and refugee action.


  • Sara Pantuliano (host), Chief Executive, ODI
  • Sorcha O'Callaghan, Director of ODI’s Humanitarian Policy Group
  • Becca Hird, Associate at Mishcon Private specialising in immigration
  • Isabel Alonso García, Programmes Manager, Calais, Collective Aid